View Full Version : Elbow Cay/Lubber's Quarter Continued:
Moderator242
09-28-2004, 09:24 PM
Please continue to post here.
HTVFR
09-28-2004, 10:00 PM
Tim,
survived, come asap
Rudy
HTVFR
09-28-2004, 10:01 PM
Dave- Streaker sank- have made arrangements to have her lifted
Rudy Malone
Mike from Boston
09-29-2004, 07:44 AM
Looking for any information on the damage to the house Harbourlights in Hopetown Harbour. Fire house report only says that the roof had detatched. Have been in touch with Libby the owner and she's having trouble getting any info. Apparently telephone and electricity is still down. Would appreciate any info I can pass onto Libby. If anyone sees Dick Pyle at Harbourlights tell him the Flemings say hi and wish him well. Hope everyone is holding up well in the Abacos. We're thinking of you.
sunrisepoint
09-29-2004, 09:53 AM
No information in the firehouse report regarding Sunrise Point. Would appreciate any information. Thanks.
cdklaf
09-29-2004, 10:23 AM
Can anyone tell me how the folks @ Island Marine are? Not able to reach them and are concerened. Thanks for any info.
Conchshell
09-29-2004, 11:20 AM
Rudy-
Is that the Streaker from Savannah, Georgia? The Flanders' boat?
Thanks,
margaret
09-29-2004, 11:34 AM
yes, this is the streaker from savannah. dave is down there now working on stablelizing the boat. it is on the dock with a pile in the salon. the engines did not appear to get water .
Conchshell
09-29-2004, 11:38 AM
Thanks, Margaret-
This is Don Flanders (Jr.) ... that's my uncle's boat.
Thanks for the info.
Sally
09-29-2004, 11:51 AM
Any word from Peggy & Chris Thompson in Hopetown? Our thoughts are with all of you over there.
Frank Cole
09-29-2004, 01:12 PM
My wife and I are supposed to down Saturday 10/2 and stay at Finders Keepers, a Hopetown Hideaways property on Elbow Cay. I have tried all week to find out about the conditions there, but have not been able to get through to anyone. I expect that things are pretty bad and that we will need to cancel the trip. I would like to speak with someone who can tell me something or can have someone at Hideaways contact me asap so I can cancel flights and make alternative arrangements. Thanks for your help. I wish a speedy recovery to all effected by the storms.
Moderator242
09-29-2004, 01:17 PM
Have you checked out this website? http://www.hopetownfirerescue.com/
Mike from Boston
09-29-2004, 02:00 PM
there's a long list of damaged homes on hopetownfirerescue. just keep scrolloing down and you'll come upon them. lists all parts of the island
SherrySS
09-29-2004, 03:34 PM
Would appreciate any information about Jeff, Jenny & little Joey Gale at Island Marine on Parrot Cay!
adphp
09-29-2004, 05:47 PM
New to the message board, forgive me if I am posting this wrong. We've tried to reach Austin or Amy of Sea Level Cottages on Lubbers since before Frances. I checked the Hopetown Fire & Rescue for any word but there's none. Does anyone know how they are? Thanks in advance for any info. - Andy
adphp@earthliink.net
eternity
09-29-2004, 06:57 PM
Hello, we hope everyone is staying safe duing this time, I realize it may take some time for each home to be checked out on the inside also, will these updates be on the HTFR site also? Thank you for any info. God Bless all and be safe.
Patrick
09-29-2004, 07:37 PM
Andy,
Shortly after Frances, I received an email from Sea Level Cottages stating that they were fine with very little damage. In the damage assessment for Jeanne, HTVFR reported no additional damages to Lubbers Quarters other than the roof of one house that is not a part of Sea Level. They reported damage to several docks, but I do not know if Sea Level's dock was affected. Their dock is only 1-2 years old so I am hoping that it weathered the storm. In fact, we are looking forward to our trip to Sea Level on Oct. 24, 2004.
Patrick
HTVFR
09-29-2004, 09:49 PM
There are several posts on this site asking specifics about houses and or people.
Please be aware that everybody you know and care about on Elbow Cay, Tilloo, Lubbers and Parrot Cay is SAFE and suffered no injury.
It is important to note that phones, power and internet are all DOWN and are not likely to be restored for about THREE WEEKS, maybe longer. Nobody on the island has the ability to make or receive phone callls, send faxes or even view this website. A limited amount of official safety orientated traffic is being transmitted back and forth by satellite e-mail and phones. Your friends and family are safe but you cannot phone them and they cannot call you.
Houses that received damage are listed on the Hope Town Fire Rescue website which you can view at http://www.hopetownfirerescue.com
IF A PARTICULAR HOUSE OR RESORT IS NOT MENTIONED THEN IT RECEIVED NO NOTABLE DAMAGE.
The assessment of property damage done by HTVFR immediately after the storm is for the purpose of advising Government and other interested parties and to get an overall picture of the damage. After the initial damage assessment, it is up to the caretakers of each property to note damage in greater detail and advise the owners accordingly. In most cases, owners of property that has been damaged have, or will shortly be travelling to Abaco to make repair arrangements.
HTVFR is a volunteer organization and members have jobs or other commitments as well as repairs to their own property or businesses to complete in many cases. HTVFR will not be travelling to other Cays to do damage assessments nor be doing any further assessments on Elbow Cay. We will be updating the HTVFR website as new information on the general situation becomes available.
Sorry but we have no information on house rental status, booking agents etc..
Carrie Cash
09-30-2004, 02:26 PM
September 28, 2004
TO: Elbow Cay Property Owners
FR: Carrie, Jane & Don
Hurricane Jeanne was a tough and scary storm. The surge was three plus feet over the sidewalk by the office. At the height of the storm the waves slammed into the top of the ECP building. Most of the docks on the Sea of Abaco are gone. The north end dock is “humped” but ok. Marsh Harbour is devastated ! Only the Jib Room marina and Boat harbours are operational. Sapodilly’s has a boat in the front of it..
Hope Town is a mess to say the least. The dunes held from Steve Bests almost to High Hopes. This was a very different hurricane. The 100 mph winds came out of the northwest from midnight to 9 AM. High tide was at 6 am. The second half of the storm came from the SE with even higher winds and lasted for 5 hours! Harbour’s Edge is a write off. A lot of docks in the harbour were badly damaged. For the most part, our houses did ok. It could have been a lot worse. We can recover from this like we did after Floyd but there’s a tremendous amount of HARD work to be done.
The insurance adjustors have been to quite a few of our properties after Jeanne. We’re working hard to get the claims taken care of. Some of your properties need to be attended to immediately – Sublime, Chrysalis, Krouts, Palmetto Crest, Wanamakers, Hatchet House are number one priority. We cannot assess all of the electrical ie pumps, a/cs etc. If they were on the ground, they’re probably trashed. Here’s our assessment of the houses.
Don Aiken: Lots of sand, the ceiling in the bedroom closest to Nigh Creek came down. We pulled out the rest plus all wet insulation. Dock has some minor damage. The adjustor is with Don now.
Doug Behrendt: Gazebo screening gone, “dive” platform looked ok. Basement flooded. Don thinks everything is ok. The adjustor has been there
Godfrey Thomas New pergo flooring ruined. Sand blasted all paint, dock is badly “humped” with boat house in tact.
Steve Best More water inside – but not quite as bad as Frances
Peggy Brawly Lots of tree damage. The house fared ok. The adjustor has been there.
Billy Cash Major roof damage; storm surge swept under the house-everything is full of salt water. We removed the carpet, linoleum, and now we have to remove the sub floor. The adjustor has been there. Central a/c, pumps, H/W heater, are useless. The new deck and tile work are ok. Fridge & stove are a write off, too.
Marge Colley From the inside, the house looks like we could rent it tomorrow. The adjustor has been there The insurance adjustor is getting a structural engineer to look at it as the foundation seems to have shifted a bit.
Day Shelmire House did well this time. The shed went under water again. More sand in laundry room.
Jim Laughlin Down Thru had no additional damage from this storm.
Crow’s Nest porch screening blew in. Lost some gutters and shingles. The adjustor has been there. Down Thru has a dock as does Nest Egg. Crow’s Nest’s dock, ramp and the rental docks are history.
Olivia Dyer Chrysalis really leaked! Major roof damage. The interior walls and ceiling show water damage, some siding is gone, salt water throughout the house. Sea water in basement…Mr. Spence’s family had a lot of damage after Frances so he is unavailable now. The adjustor has been there. We have “dried in the roof”. I have estimates for three types of roofs-regular shingles, architectural shingles, or a Bermuda roof using hardy board.
Paul Gooding Habitat did well.
Tom & Ruth Harkins House and boat house ok. Need some new guttering. House feels dry inside.
Geoff Holding More roof damage in main house. Studio has some water inside and a few shingles gone./ Porch railing damaged.
Phil Jensen Nothing additional that we can see. All pumps, etc. are a write off. The adjustor has been there
Jim & Betty Klein No additional problems that we can see
John Koerner Half of dock is gone, sea water through out the basement. Central A/c is a write off.
Ann & John Krout Major roof damage. Generator is probably a write-off. Linoleum on first floor is wet with salt water. The adjustor has been there. We are tarping the roof and airing out. Dock has a big hump in the middle of it.
Ricky Lait No additional external damage. Have not been inside yet.
Ken Langston The adjustor has been there. Shed roof blew off. Don went inside today and opened up a few windows. Everything is dry.
Tom Bata Some more singles went but not too bad. The adjustor has been there
Colin Buffin More roof damage, The adjustor has been there. Pumps are gone.
Bud Manley Cupola blew off roof. We think it’s in Sea-to-Sea’s yard. Have not been inside.
Tom Maxfield Looks fine from outside. Have not been inside
Jim Modisette some dock damage
Adelle Pollock More roof damage. Second whirly bird gone. A/C’s need replacing. Guttering gone, needs lots of paint. Dock is gone.
Glen Pritchard NE1 has some water damage on ceiling inside and porch. Central a/c, pumps etcetera are probably shot. The adjustor has been there.
NE2 has about the same damage. The adjustor has been there.
Molly Rice New roof is needed. Ceilings on second floor are all water stained. Kitchen had salt water on all counters. Generator is shot. Water inside shop on harbour. Deck railing is partially gone, awning is completely finished. NEED ADJUSTOR. We are tarping roof and airing things out.
Kenneth Roberts More leaks around windows mainly. Dining room table is damaged. Kitchen floor tiles came up…
Peter Schmidt Needs a lot of work! North side door twisted out of framing, the back wall seems unstable.
Al Shapiro Dock is gone! The adjustor has been there. New roof looks good. We’re checking inside today. More trees down. Tons of broken up junk in road that washed in with the storm surge.
Jim Sheldon House did well again. . The adjustor has been there
Joe Shrier More dune gone but house deck is still there. Steps to beach (which isn’t there) are gone. Some water damage on floor in bedroom. The adjustor has been there.
Marty Skovish House did well. A/c is probably a write off…
Alan Barnes Sundancer had a bit of water in dining room. Vinyl cover on roof blew off on north side. Jerry tacked it down yesterday. Valentines lost it’s pergola and some porch railing. Have not been downstairs yet but upstairs fared well.
Natalie Javier Westwind did not do as well this time. The north bedroom is flooded with rainwater. We think it came through the vent pipe; the south bedroom is very sandy, the garage door blew off; the window in the old office leaked sand and water around the frame; the kitchen is flooded with salt water. We think it came thru the chimney when it lost it’s cap. The old roof did ok – a bundle of shingles will do it although it will need to be tarred and painted again. All that is left of the dock are the pilings. The yard is a HUGE mess!
Jim Warfield Generator roof blew off; the other shed tipped over. The adjustor has been there
Bill Klemman Lots more sand, a few shingles, but basically no additional damage
Ben Franklin No add’l damage although the beams in the gazebo(s) a shaky; the pool has more sand…
If some of you want to come down to help clean up, please remember that there is no
power, phones, no cell service unless you climb to the top of the lighthouse – and even
then it does not work all the time; and no internet. We’re told power and phones won’t be
up for three to five weeks although it could be less if the underwater cable isn’t
damaged.. The Harbour Lodge has rooms. We have cancelled all October rentals.
We are working to be up and running by November 1. If you have a credit balance with
us and/our hurricane insurance, we are proceeding with all necessary repairs that we can
cover out of your accounts. For uncovered damages ie. docks, walkways, yards – some of
these are going to cost quite a bit and we are going to need some money.
The government is waiving duty on everything that needs to be replaced (you’ll have to
prove you lost it in these storms) for the next 60 days.
Carrie, Jane, and Don
Conchshell
09-30-2004, 03:56 PM
I am aware of the destruction to Abaco Inn and Harbour's Edge - two of my favorites. May be a crazy question, but are there any places that will be serving food (i.e. with gas facilities) on Elbow Cay in the next few weeks?
Alan Brown
09-30-2004, 04:01 PM
Seaspray indicated the other day that the'd be serving lunch.
Carrie Cash
09-30-2004, 06:40 PM
The Hope Town Harbour Lodge is open now, Cap't Jack's will be open on Friday, Oct. 1 and I believe Sea Spray will be up soon.
Carrie Cash
09-30-2004, 06:41 PM
Lighthouse Marina has gas I diesel
biggy
09-30-2004, 06:51 PM
Carrie If you see Joan Mackey,from Seaspray,please tell her I will be landing via Continental,in MHH,tomorrow at 1:30pm.I will be going to Solomons to buy groceries for her and Brenda,before I come to Hopetown. Thank You Tony
Carrie Cash
09-30-2004, 10:09 PM
I'm in Ft. Lauderdale 'til tomorrow so you'' probably see her before I do.
Carrie If you see Joan Mackey,from Seaspray,please tell her I will be landing via Continental,in MHH,tomorrow at 1:30pm.I will be going to Solomons to buy groceries for her and Brenda,before I come to Hopetown. Thank You Tony
Remer Lane
10-01-2004, 05:00 AM
Carrie:
Please tell Tommy Susan and I will be coming on the 19th if the power is on. I'll keep trying to call him.
Thanks, Remer
rjohns
10-01-2004, 08:17 AM
I am trying to get in touch with the Gales on Parrot Key. Does anyone know it they are OK? We are supposed to stay there the week of Oct 11-18. Could someone relay a message to them to see if this is still OK. Is there anyway we can offer help? Thank you. My name is Richard Johns phone # 407-629-9387 and e-mail rjohns@cfl.rr.com.
Thank you,
Richard Johns
Sharon & Eric
10-01-2004, 09:09 AM
Hi all of you from the Abacos! I am so sorry for the all damage you have all incurred. My fiance has been visiting Corn Bay at Man O War for the past 15 years, so we decided to have our wedding at Hopetown. Luck has it, it is planned for November 6th. I have 45 guests that are arriving as early as October 24th, and I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on whether I should be panicing or not. Most guests are staying at the Hopetown Harbor Lodge, we rented the Harbour Villa. I have not been able to get in touch with Bonnie Hall or Tom at the Lodge. If any of you have information that can help me understand better the condition and chances of still having a wedding at this time, that would be great. My fiance is planning to fly down next week to help in the cleaning up the island.
Thank you all.
MNJOHN
10-01-2004, 05:56 PM
any news on Captain Jacks? didn't see anything on the Fire Report
Thanks
John Cashmore
HTVFR
10-01-2004, 09:12 PM
Bonnie's number is 242-366-0399
It is working.
Hi all of you from the Abacos! I am so sorry for the all damage you have all incurred. My fiance has been visiting Corn Bay at Man O War for the past 15 years, so we decided to have our wedding at Hopetown. Luck has it, it is planned for November 6th. I have 45 guests that are arriving as early as October 24th, and I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on whether I should be panicing or not. Most guests are staying at the Hopetown Harbor Lodge, we rented the Harbour Villa. I have not been able to get in touch with Bonnie Hall or Tom at the Lodge. If any of you have information that can help me understand better the condition and chances of still having a wedding at this time, that would be great. My fiance is planning to fly down next week to help in the cleaning up the island.
Thank you all.
blueeyes
10-02-2004, 03:24 AM
Hi, I am glad to hear that all is safe and well. Although one can always replace roofs, cars, clothing etc. life is very special. I have a lot of love for Abaco, my mother coming from Hope Town and now my Stepmother Margaret is still living there. Athough, through this site and the hopetownfirerescue site that kept reporting of no injuruies or deaths it was still nothing like when I heard Monica & Margarts voice on the one for the first time today since the hurricane.
God bless all that kept getting out messages of hope to families and friends and may he have a special place for all of you.
Doyle Fox and family.
Billfish
10-02-2004, 08:42 AM
Does anyone know how Robert and Karen Lowe "Seagull" made out?
jennyandjeff
10-04-2004, 11:27 AM
Hi Sharon and Eric,
My fiancee Jeff and I are to be married 10 days after you on the 16th at Hope Town Harbour Lodge. As HTVFR mentioned, try and get in touch with Bonnie Hall. I'm sure everything will be o.k. What's that saying about rain on your wedding day being good luck? Well, I'm sure a few hurricanes will ensure a lifetime of happiness together! All the best.
Your fellow bride-to-be in waiting,
Jenny :)
Watercolours
10-04-2004, 11:54 AM
Watercolours Cottages has survived both Hurricanes, electric has been restored to Lubbers, our phones and internett does not work yet but are able to check messages once or twice a week. The dock was lost and has been replaced as of yesterday!
Great Lady
10-04-2004, 12:54 PM
Any word on specific boats at seaspray? I am still worried about the "Great Lady" and dock condition? Thank you, Smoak and Kerri
captrongreen
10-05-2004, 09:23 AM
Hi Mark and Patti,
So Sorry you lost your dock but glad your cottages were OK. Can't believe you got your dock replaced already....that's wonderful. Abaconians are the greatest. The pictures we've been seeing on this site and others are devastating. Marsh Harbour really took a beating, as did Guana, Hope Town and all areas around. Our thoughts and prayers are with everyone over there. It's amazing that Lubbers has power already. We had been hearing 3-4 weeks or more. We'll be over either the last week of Oct or week before. Look to see you then.
Ron and Barb
elcahun
10-05-2004, 02:21 PM
Jenny,
I can guarantee that HL will be ready for you. We just returned and they were doing a fantastic job of cleaning up. The entire pool area was under a couple feet of sand but they were getting it back in order. The beach is beautiful and the people great.
Kathye
10-05-2004, 02:59 PM
I am the owner of Sandy Bottoms on Lubber's. Could anyone let Laurie Shriener on Lubber's know that I will be arriving in Marsh Harbour on October 10 around 2:00 pm on Continental's flight to do whatever I can do to help with the cleanup. Tell her that it will just be James and me and if there's anything I can bring to let me know if she can figure out a way to post me a message here. I am also not sure whether I will be renting a boat since I do not know about the docking situation on Lubber's. I know that my dock was damaged. Tell her I will try to catch a ride over somehow or if she can help me out with a ride to let them know at Sea Horse as i will head there if I don't hear from her. Thanks!
Kathye
Piano Buoy
10-05-2004, 03:19 PM
Hi Kathye,
Just gave your message to Mark Gonsalves (Watercolors Cottages on Lubbers). She was just in our office and just missed her. He will pass the message to her.
Kathye
10-06-2004, 08:48 AM
Thanks so much! Let me know if she wants me to bring anything or can help me out with a ride!
Kathye
twosailing
10-07-2004, 06:56 AM
My name is Stephanie and I am looking for anyone going to the bahamas in the next few weeks who can take any kind of supplies to the bahamas, We have been to the bahamas and seen and heard of the destrustion and would like to help. We are very lucky in this county as we have many resourses to help ourselves quickly after the hurricanes. Already many places here are bouncing back but I know the road to recorvy for the bahamas will be long without outside help. .. We are just a few here who would like to help
Thanks
Twosailing22@yahoo.com
Kathye
10-16-2004, 06:34 PM
This is Kathye again, owner of Sandy Bottoms on Lubber's. I had to reschedule my trip because Laurie was not going to be in town. I will be arriving on Sun, Oct. 17 around 2 pm and will go to Sea Horse Rentals to see if I can catch a ride. If someone can let Laurie Schreiner know when I will be arriving she may be able to come get me. Tell her I will be coming by myself.
Kathye
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